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Routy CNC Router (V-Slot Belt & Pinion)

Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by kram242, Nov 11, 2013.

ROUTY CNC Router (V-Slot Belt & Pinion)

ROUTY CNC Router (V-Slot Belt & Pinion)

Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by kram242, Nov 11, 2013.

A cool little CNC router build that uses the V-Slot belt & pinion drive and stock parts.

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  1. brianblocker

    brianblocker New Builder

    So awesome. Will definitely be looking forward to it.
    brianblocker, Jan 8, 2014
    #61
  2. JustinTime

    JustinTime Veteran Builder

    I did exactly that on my PhlatPrinter 3 as you can see here http://www.phlatforum.com/xenforo/threads/yorams-mods.2389/

    And here http://www.phlatforum.com/xenforo/threads/led-ring.3129/ you can see the latest modification to it (in the second and third to last pics).

    I run the motor on 14.5v. When I had it on higher it was getting hot. While I don't cut aluminum on the PhlatPrinter, can't use water cooling, I'm sure I could even at this lower voltage. It may take two or three more passes, that's all.

    It had cost me less than $100.
    JustinTime, Jan 8, 2014
    #62
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  3. brianblocker

    brianblocker New Builder

    Can you post some specific links to the lead screw nut you used? I see a ton of them on the site you mentioned previously.
    brianblocker, Jan 8, 2014
    #63
  4. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    Hmm it will not let me send you the exact link but you click on the buy button like pictured below and then enter the length you want and hit update. This is a hi lead screw, you could also use a standard acme as well, would just be a little slower on the Z axis which is really not a big deal on a router usually there is no reason to rush a cut job. This is the one I used for my test machine and the one I used to tap the 3D printed nut block.
    You may also want to get a little extra length to cut off so you can use it as a makeshift tap in your drill. Without looking I believe that you need approx. 8" on the ROUTY Z axis so you may want to get 12" since its sold by the foot anyway and it will give you that little extra to work with and use as a tap as well :)
    Hope this helps

    http://www.roton.com/Mating_Components.aspx?partnumber=60762&#PN

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    kram242, Jan 8, 2014
    #64
  5. brianblocker

    brianblocker New Builder

    What kind of nut would you need to get with this?
    brianblocker, Jan 9, 2014
    #65
  6. Protodrake

    Protodrake Well-Known Builder

    Protodrake, Jan 9, 2014
    #66
  7. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    @brianblocker All the nuts on that page match this screw. The nut block on the Routy is in production not ETA yet but will have them in the store when they are done.
    In the mean time you can download the 3D STL model and thread it/tap it with a drill and the ACME rod. That's how mine was done. You could also get one of the nuts shown on that page and try to fab a way to mount it to the plate as well.

    @Protodrake thats a cool looking design and if the holes have 20mm spacing (standard V-Slot building system) it may fit. (EDIT: Actually to thick at 16mm. Need 12mm-13mm max) So it will not fit with out spacing the plate out more.
    Is this an open source design?
    Thanks for the share
    kram242, Jan 9, 2014
    #67
  8. brianblocker

    brianblocker New Builder

    Ahhhh I see. That makes sense. I may end up trying to go w/ a belt drive for the z-axis then if I can't figure something out there, but cool! I may also try and rig up something from Home Depot, I can get some allthread there. Appreciate it!
    brianblocker, Jan 9, 2014
    #68
  9. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    More then welcome, glad to help
    I think this is the best way, you will find things you want to change along the way as well. Once you get it complete you will want to rebuild with the new additions built in as well as a few more that you come up with after running it a while. Thats how it happens with me anyway :)
    kram242, Jan 9, 2014
    #69
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  10. Protodrake

    Protodrake Well-Known Builder

    @kram242 Hey, i posted the wrong link!
    Here is the correct one.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINIATURE-2...401?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2333ae39a9

    This is a 20mm center to center mounting hole with a M6 rod, with a profile of 12mm thick. And unfortunately, as far as i can see not open source. :(
    Protodrake, Jan 9, 2014
    #70
  11. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    Thanks for the updated link. We actually have upgraded to the 8mm rod as the 6mm seems a little too flexible for our taste. On a short Z run its not a big deal but if your using these for the Y or X axis run you will get rod whipping from the rotational forces pulling the rod out like a jump rope. We have not tested the 8mm on the Z yet but we are working towards this goal after having tested the 6mm. The 6mm does work fine on the Z though.
    I think this is based on an open source design i have seen it somewhere before. We'll have to keep looking, it may be on thingiverse
    kram242, Jan 9, 2014
    #71
  12. Bryant

    Bryant Well-Known Builder

    I think that was my last piece I needed for my build. I've ordered one and we will get it going.
    Bryant, Jan 9, 2014
    #72
  13. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    Awesome! Looking forward to seeing its first steps :) What are planing on using as the driver?
    kram242, Jan 9, 2014
    #73
  14. Chris Allen

    Chris Allen Journeyman Builder

    I'm struggling to find bearings that are 8mm inside and still fit on the threaded rod plate in the UK. Any ideas from anyone?
    Chris Allen, Jan 9, 2014
    #74
  15. Protodrake

    Protodrake Well-Known Builder

    Check out 688ZZ Bearings... I believe they will work. Check ebay if you cant find them locally, although any RC hobbie store should have them.
    Protodrake, Jan 9, 2014
    #75
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  16. Frank G Haymes

    Frank G Haymes Well-Known Builder

    Frank G Haymes, Jan 9, 2014
    #76
  17. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    These should work @Frank G Haymes thanks for the link! :)
    At this time the part store only has the bearings we are using for the 6mm acme but will have the 8mm as well.
    kram242, Jan 9, 2014
    #77
  18. Chris Allen

    Chris Allen Journeyman Builder

    Thanks all. Those look good. Need to work out my spacings as I have a spindle mount with irregular holes that I need to work around too.
    Chris Allen, Jan 10, 2014
    #78
  19. brianblocker

    brianblocker New Builder

    how long do you think until the nema 17 stepper motors are back in stock? Thanks!
    brianblocker, Jan 10, 2014
    #79
  20. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    kram242, Jan 10, 2014
    #80
  21. Robert Hummel

    Robert Hummel Custom Builder Staff Member Builder

    Here ya go dude just an idea of how it ran :)

    Z Axis motor plate didn't line up so I made a wood 1 then milled a replacement :)


    When milling I did 1/32 depth steps in HDPE and in aluminum I did 1/64 and used cooking oil as my lube ;)
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2014
    Robert Hummel, Jan 10, 2014
    #81
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  22. Robert Hummel

    Robert Hummel Custom Builder Staff Member Builder

    Decided to check the condition of my 890KV outrunner before ordering a new one and happy I did.
    As I suspected bearing failure was the issue and the fact it was pushing 24vdc didn't help "21,000RPM"
    image.jpg
    Live and learn lol

    I will pop into my local big boy toys and pick up replacements then build it as per the picture I posted :)

    I will post a build log in the other builds section of the forum
    Robert Hummel, Jan 11, 2014
    #82
  23. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    Very cool thanks Robert looking forward to this build!
    kram242, Jan 11, 2014
    #83
  24. JustinTime

    JustinTime Veteran Builder

    I too had thought 24V is a good idea and found out I was wrong. My motor was HOT and I didn't need the high rpm at all. Going to 14.5V I still don't run at full rpm, especially cutting foam. It just melts the foam and makes a mess. I cut at a very low rpm so high voltage is not needed. Wood I cut at higher rpm, depends on the bit diameter but still not at full rpm so, again, high voltage is not needed.

    I didn't try to cut aluminum, the PhlatPrinter is made out of MDF, but I'm sure high rpm is not desired there either.
    JustinTime, Jan 11, 2014
    #84
  25. Robert Hummel

    Robert Hummel Custom Builder Staff Member Builder

    Yes in aluminum the best RPM and feed was 10,000 at 10-15 ipm.
    In wood ipm was all that changed to 30 and in foam I have no idea
    Robert Hummel, Jan 11, 2014
    #85
  26. Protodrake

    Protodrake Well-Known Builder

    Hey All, New store in canada for OpenBuild parts! We have kits of the Routy avaialble for preorder. Made as a basic kit or complete with router and electronics! Grand Opening Febuary 1st! Check it out! www.protodrake.ca
    Protodrake, Jan 13, 2014
    #86
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  27. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    Hey Canada! Getting OpenBuilds parts faster just got a little easier thanks to Protodrake
    Congrats on your new store! @Protodrake
    kram242, Jan 13, 2014
    #87
  28. Cuse

    Cuse New Builder

    Hi all. Two questions.

    -How long does it usually take to process and ship orders within the US?

    -Does this machine do fine routing hardwoods? (probably a stupid question :p)
    Cuse, Jan 14, 2014
    #88
  29. Bryant

    Bryant Well-Known Builder

    Cuse,

    I'm speaking from a bit of inexperience here as I'm in the "almost ready to start assembly" stage of the game but I'll answer anyway.

    I've been receiving my orders from the OpenBuilds part store about a week after ordering.

    As far as routing hard woods, it should do fine as long as you adjust the pass depth to account for changes in density (maple is going to take more passes than oak in all likelyhood.)
    Bryant, Jan 14, 2014
    #89
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  30. mkolsen22

    mkolsen22 New Builder

    What is the usable cutting area of the Routy? I may have missed this as I scanned all of the comments. I'm looking to make this my first CNC router but before taking the plunge need to know if the size as designed will be large enough or if I need to try and scale it up a touch. Any help is greatly appreciated.
    mkolsen22, Jan 16, 2014
    #90
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