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OpenBuilds OX CNC Machine

Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by kram242, Dec 15, 2013.

  1. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

  2. JustinTime

    JustinTime Veteran Builder

    A hood is good for sound dampening but for dust best use a dust shoe.

    Should have refreshed before posting and I would have seen that Mark already recommended a dust shoe.
  3. RcRod

    RcRod Well-Known Builder

    My Ox is built and ready to calibrate, I'm running LinuxCnc and am looking for the values I need to enter in the Stepper setup. I'm using the GT3 Pulleys (20) and belt. I'm sure there is an easy way to do the math to get my "rev / in" to enter in the leadscrew value, if there is can someone post it. I'm getting close by trial and error but would really like to see the math.
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  4. Jestah

    Jestah Journeyman Builder

    I worked it by using the below method

    motor steps x drive micro stepping/pitch of the belt x # of pulley teeth

    200*10/2*20=33.33 Steps per in mach3

    Does this mean that the above system has a resolution of 0.03mm?
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  5. dddman

    dddman Journeyman Builder

    Last edited: Jun 13, 2014
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  6. Bmoz

    Bmoz Well-Known Builder

    Your video doesn't show up
  7. dddman

    dddman Journeyman Builder

    I've added a photobucket link too. Maybe Facebook videos are blocked from where you are?
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  8. Robert Hummel

    Robert Hummel Custom Builder Staff Member Builder

    Photobucket Video worked and looks great!
    Like the drag chain placement :)
    Awesome seeing my plates :D
    Nice work :thumbsup:
    The last of my electronics came in so hopefully I will be running soon
  9. Rick 2.0

    Rick 2.0 Journeyman Builder

    I have a feeling they are blocked from anyone who is not logged into your facebook account.
  10. Bmoz

    Bmoz Well-Known Builder

    I have a steel cabinet that I am considering mounting the OX to. I am hoping to add rigidity. Does anyone have any experience with mounting the OX to a table? How did it work out?
  11. Bmoz

    Bmoz Well-Known Builder

    I found this calculator under resources for the OX. Perhaps you could use it to check your math. http://www.openbuilds.com/resources/joseph-prusas-reprap-calculators.3/
  12. Lee Saferite

    Lee Saferite Well-Known Builder

    So, I decided I was going to use the 1500mm beams for the X and Y so I would have about 4ft x 4ft cuttable area. After assembling it and looking at it for a few days I'm starting to rethink that. Ultimately I want a machine that can do full sheet material (4x8) but I'm thinking the OX might be better in the smaller size.

    Thoughts? Suggestions?
  13. Rick 2.0

    Rick 2.0 Journeyman Builder

    2(Pi)(Radius to center of belt) = movement for 1 rotation.
    Previously discussed here: http://www.openbuilds.com/threads/precise-rail-movement-on-ox.519/
  14. RcRod

    RcRod Well-Known Builder

    I was able to get to this point myself, the real question is how do you get to the rev/in that LinuxCnc needs, not steps per revolution. I could measure it by moving the axis 1" and measuring the degrees that the pulley turns and do the math but I don't have an accurate way to measure the degree of rotation.
  15. asb_79

    asb_79 Well-Known Builder

    Try dividing 1" by the calculated mean circumference. Pretty sure that will give you rev/inch
  16. asb_79

    asb_79 Well-Known Builder

    I believe the PD for the pulley is 0.7517", so the circumference is 2.361"

    Rev/inch = 0.423
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2014
  17. Serge E.

    Serge E. Journeyman Builder

    I'm going for the full 1500 mm X axis but half in Y with the same hopes of potentially working 4' x however long I can get a table to hold and slide the work piece through. Of course, we both then have to figure out how to line up our work piece between 2 or, in your case, 4 feet sections not to introduce visible alignment problems.

    I've got the frame ("part I") just about done, if not for a handfull of missing t-nuts. The two pieces of v-slot to hold the work surface/table are currently on shelf. In looking at the frame, and planning to eventually open at least the center of the work area for "deeper" work pieces, I'll order an extra length or two of v-slot while ordering the t-nuts and start preparing for what will be the well for a "manual" forth axis of some kind ...
  18. Jay_r

    Jay_r Well-Known Builder

    It might drone or amplify sounds, depending on the thickness of the sheetmetal.
  19. Bmoz

    Bmoz Well-Known Builder

    Yuck....I didn't think of that Rubber leveling feet it is
  20. Jay_r

    Jay_r Well-Known Builder

    You might consider adding a plywood top to the cabenet. I have my lathe mounted on an old sheet metal office desk with 3 sheets of plywood for the top. Before I added the plywood, it was considerably louder and less ridgid, with the majority of the noise comming from the desk itself. Then again, my lathe dosent come close to the higher pitched spindle speeds of a router. Your mileage may vary.
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  21. Todd Powell

    Todd Powell Well-Known Builder

    I'm just getting started and gathering up parts. Neither of the stepper motors or the control are available from the store or the supplied links. I was looking at this combo available on e-bay.

    http://goo.gl/4AWKDF

    Any help or point me in another direction is appreciated.
  22. GrayUK

    GrayUK Veteran Builder

  23. JustinTime

    JustinTime Veteran Builder

    There are no specs, that saw, for the driver board but it looks to me like the TB6560 (I think that that's what it's called) chip board. There are issues with this board and I will not recommend using it.
  24. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    I found this out as well justintime. I found a fix at one point on cnc zone but it looks like a real pain to get it done.
    @Todd you could always support these guys (Spark Concepts). http://www.openbuilds.com/builds/cnc-xpro-driver.643/
    They have an all around nice looking driver that would get the job done.
    They also have a kickstarter going at the moment as well. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/484774463/cnc-xpro-driver
    Where they are offering a super cool modded OX kit called Zeus that may interest you as well.
    e699792d3a87644d17cf06ffb5b10d83_large.jpg
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  25. Robert Hummel

    Robert Hummel Custom Builder Staff Member Builder

    Yes stay clear of the TB6560 controllers they are not friendly to mistakes and the IC requires a power on sequence that the maker did not account for, so each time the board is powered on your risking blowing the stepper IC's.....
    I had to take mine apart and build stand alone drivers, then get a BOB and in the end payed twice the money.
    Really the kits on the bay are simply motor, power supply packages with a paper weight TB6560 PCB
  26. Todd Powell

    Todd Powell Well-Known Builder

    Thanks everyone for all the great info. I ordered all the available parts via the part store yesterday. I'll continue to pick up items as they become available. If the steppers become available here before I gather everything else up, I'd rather just buy them here. I've seen a couple people order the 400w spindles off e-bay rather than using one of the router options. What are the advantages / disadvantages of the spindle rather than router? Looking forward to getting started on this project!
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  27. Charles Ely

    Charles Ely New Builder

    An Ox is in my future. I just purchased a Makita TP0701C Compact Router (on sale for $89 at Home Depot). The motor body is a 65mm diameter, 85mm tall cylinder. I want to use the "hose clamp" mounting technique until I can cut my own motor mounts. I had an idea for an mounting aid that fits over the cast 90 degree corner brackets. The first prototype is being printed at Shapeways and should be here is a couple of weeks. You can go here to look at the design. http://www.shapeways.com/model/2067340/makita-mounting-aid.html?li=shop-results&materialId=95

    Chaz
  28. Charles Ely

    Charles Ely New Builder

  29. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    @Todd Powell Sounds like you are well on your way now :thumbsup: The main difference of the cnc spindle router (that i know of anyway) is the ability to set the spindle speed via the gcode. So for instance everytime you run a plexi-glass cut your spindle speeds would be set already.
    You may want to check out the RC spindle Robert is working on as well as the software speed control circuit Tweakie is working on :)
    @Charles Ely I can't seem to open that link, but it sounds pretty cool, and I look forward to seeing it.
    EDIT Whoops we must have been typing at the same time :)
    Looks great Charles! I'm just sayin this would be a great part to share in the resources part section! :D
    http://www.openbuilds.com/resources/categories/parts.1/
  30. Charles Ely

    Charles Ely New Builder

    No problem. As soon as I get a couple in my hands. It would help if I had dimensions for the 2060 extrusion and the cast 90 degree corner bracket. I'm starting with the Sketchup drawings and hoping nothing has changed since they were created.
  31. kram242

    kram242 OpenBuilds Team Staff Member Builder

    Good deal! Nope they are the same so all is good :thumbsup:

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